four has made them several times in the last few months actually so just this week in iowa think progress asked cain about a comment he made about muslims serving in his cabinet if he were to be elected president you said you would never listen you know the two weeks ago since to your position that wasn't a stick that i made let's get it right i was here i was asked if i would be comfortable at my speech that's probably not because. look at your resume ok not all muslims are terrorists but a lot of the terrorists the most sort i just have to be really careful about those who do not get this kind of sounds like cain is trying to rewrite history here take a look at an interview also with think progress from may when came was asked if he would allow a muslim in his cabinet or point one as a judge no. i will not. use one. there is this creeping into this this is. to gradually. sure read almost in the most will say i want government. so what is your stance herman cain please

make up your mind now if you just google herman cain the word muslim believe me you'll read a quote after quote about his views on islam and how he's so scared that sharia law is here in the u.s. never mind the fact that he's never seen a case of sharia law being dragged as here but gave his g.o.p. buddy the love to fearmonger and scare white folks of islamophobia because that seems to be a winning ticket with their voters every time and also when herman cain tonight strolls i'm bored. now we often talk about the bloated defense budget on this show the massive amounts of wasted money being thrown to projects with no sense of logic contracts the run over budget over time end up taking decades to complete and costing you the taxpayer millions if not billions of dollars so today let's get into a few specifics the jail t.v. is the vehicle that's currently being built by partnership of all your usual defense contractors to replace the hummer and the purchase price for each vehicle

with our without armor already quitman just the chassis is three hundred thousand dollars minimum now once you add some armor than that price takes it right up to six hundred thousand dollars per vehicle all in all the initial purchase price for the entire fleet is about sixty billion dollars and then when you add in lifecycle maintenance costs the vehicle is going to tax the american tax cut of the tax because of the american taxpayer roughly three hundred billion that sounds expensive and it sounds really really fancy but apparently there is one other giant problem according to our guest tonight it doesn't meet a single requirement for use in combat as stipulated by the army so what's wrong with it and why the hell is this project still on here to discuss this with me is matthew zeller former u.s. army captain thanks so much for being here tonight thanks for having me now i know this is something that you're riled up about me and really angry because i'm sounding a huge waste of money and it is tell me exactly what's wrong with this thing why doesn't it work so the army. when they go to actually make

a new vehicle has an entire office of people that allegedly will sit down and write the basic requirements must have four wheels internal combustion engine in minimal amount of margaret cetera and then it says ok once you've built the thing it has to be able to survive certain types of explosions go up and down hills at certain degrees except for the elevation and then they go in they build a few prototypes and they put it through its paces well what they found out after the initial testing of all the prototypes is that none of them actually meet all the exposure. stipulated by the armor and that the weight ratio that would be required to do it made the vehicle to have it for transport airplanes so the army went back and revised the requirements that they stipulated in the contract so that the current prototypes would actually meet future requirements as written in requirements wasn't just been lowered a few were basically we lowered the standard and so we're going to be getting a vehicle as it's currently made that will simply not be as protective as it

necessarily needed to be and not meet the type of things that the army wanted to see of a vehicle that was alternately going to cost about three hundred billion dollars to built so who exactly is building and we've seen only say that it's your typical defense contractors out there who's responsible for having a set of requirements and building something that doesn't fit into those requirement right however so this is where it gets fascinating it's companies like b. northrop grumman those types of enterprises there's a couple that are working as a team in agreement there are others they're working another team agreement kind of in competition with so ridiculous about this is that a review a call a couple years ago general motors basically got bailed out by the american taxpayer i am well and the reason why these vehicles cost so much for these defense contractors is because they don't actually usually make vehicles so when it comes time to actually building these things they have to go out and build a factory and they have to build all the robotics for the factory and staff it manage and they only use it for one purpose building the vehicle and then they tear it all down and so in the contract they write out how much it's going to cost to

build a factory put the robotics and employ all those people and then actually tear all that down and sell it off and the government has to pay for that well what's sad about this is why don't we just use general motors to do this we already own them as a company general motors needs work we did this during world war two with tanks and everything we basically asked the u.s. auto industry to put its people to work building our supply materials that we could do this again but we're not we're well that's and that's kind of my point to him but then you run into the problem. you know creating work where normally there would be none and so then you just perpetuate this military industrial complex even further because then you have people that are dependent on a continuing and expanding defenses right and continuing on track because the only thing that they have to build we don't invest in other projects that's what president eisenhower warned actually as his farewell address was the idea of this military industrial complex and so what i want to talk about and i want to highlight this issue is it just shows how broken the defense procurement process is

this is a long list of programs that we've we've spent billions on the army spent forty billion dollars on an artillery system that ultimately did not buy it spent forty billion dollars on the stealth helicopter that ultimately did not buy that eighty billion dollars actually spent they built prototypes and everything they're going to feel that and then they got cancelled so this is it shows you just how broken the procurement process of blame or do you blame members of congress who perhaps are persuaded very easily by lobbyists that come from these defense contractors because they say we're going to build a factory in your town that provide work for your constituents and that's going to be a big thumbs up for you or do you blame it on the people at the pentagon who are on the nation of both who are that it's a combination of both in congress is for example the thirty five there is two different variants of it and they decided one of the variants had a really expensive engine that they didn't need they were going to get rid of it and that was the defense apart and they said we don't want this well congress keeps throwing it back and so i blame congress and that type of instance but in this

instance with the jail t.v. the it's the army's perturbing office of the four hundred plus people who work there there's only one guy who has an engineering degree and there's a nuclear engineering it's not an automotive engineering to a bunch of people who don't even understand the basic concepts of building an all moby or writing a proposal that says hey listen it needs to meet these spec requirements ok now this might be a silly question forgive me if it is but what do we need a replacement for the hummer what's what's wrong with what we already have the hummer has a serious design flaw. and we found out in iraq and afghanistan that basically the flat bottom halt separates when there's an explosion and people get sandwiched inside and die which is why we are fielding em wraps because democrats have a v. shaped hole and so the idea was well the end was not an actual procurement process it wasn't something that the army went on so we're going to design this from scratch and make it fit all our future needs that it was a deal that a vehicle that already existed the south africans had developed it for use in the angle and more and so we wouldn't just bought existing models and then put

a bunch of them forward because we need to protect soldiers and sailors and marines lives in afghanistan and iraq there are a few interesting details if you talk about the enwrapped as well that also shows how incompetent and broken our entire system is i hear that basically of every allowed to write their own contract they tell the pentagon what to do so the contractor that handles that is a company called s.a.i.c. it's one of the large defense and intelligence contractors and they were sending people in iraq and afghanistan to literally oversee the government personnel who were supposed to be in charge of them and it just came out this week that they were actually reprimanding and disciplining those government personnel which is very illegal and more importantly they were the ones who are in charge of writing the rebid when the government wants to go out and award a contract that has already been awarded you know it's a five year period after that five years they have to rebid it out well the s.a.i.c. people are the ones who actually wrote the rebid and then were the ones who advised the government on who they should pick to alternately when that is the prize the

prize is now there is that and yeah i think we could i think probably speak for the full hour if not for days about example after example of these projects gone wrong do you think that that's going to change anytime soon can leon panetta take any of that i hold out hope i hope that his marching orders apparently are to be you know slash four hundred billion off the defense department's budget and if you look at just an example between the army and the movie in the lead up to the iraq war the army took a thirteen million dollars chemical warfare detection system with them that did not work it had a bunch of false positives a lot of u.s. army soldiers throwing on their chemical warfare protection equipment when they didn't need to because they thought there was an incoming attack from saddam's forces the marines took canaries. when you start a force of resources it forces them to be very very smart and how they spend their money well we'll see we'll see if they actually have any success in terms of making you'll get smart with their money but of course there are a lot of jobs and a lot of money for congress that's right it's take care to about thanks so much for joining thank you so much for having me. just to have we have our fireside friday

and that we kick off the weekend with a happy hour fox news believe the media is being unfair in the coverage of the hacking scandal in the u.k. and the a.c.l.u. and federal government are battling over top secret documents concerning afghan detainee the fact that in just a moment. with

the end of the border war and going the way of the soviet union many people thought that nuclear weapons disappeared. the risk is not zero that something might be going off by mistake especially with nuclear weapons on hair trigger alert. system to use it as a threat as an extra bit but you know if you keep spinning a trillion dollars a year on weapons of eventually you're going to blow everybody young you can. you know people are dying from these weapons but until we actually see it people don't make up nuclear weapons or build you. that represents all of the firepower of the second world war and this. is the equivalent firepower of the world's nuclear arsenal today.

hungry for the full story we've gone to. the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers. critique a three. four three. three. three. free. download free blog video for your media project free video down to our t.v. dot com. to tonight's fireside fridays with your host of cops. this week the war in libya continued on and became even more of a murky wired that's the wall on

a world tour hillary clinton stopped in istanbul to meet with representatives from nato nations and there she announced that the u.s. will now officially recognize the libyan rebel rebels of the legitimate interim government of the country also includes freeing up about thirty billion dollars in assets for those rebels to use aside for recognizing that the rebels those nations meeting in turkey undoubtedly will come to no conclusion about what to do other than to keep fighting keep hoping that will mark it off he steps down or at the end of the day. but nobody knows yet how this situation is going to end but there's one thing that's become very clear it's that every single day. more people are losing their lives and by people i mean those civilians of the u.s. and nato nations are supposedly there to save or protect via a humanitarian mission so nato is denied a report from libya's inspector general this week that over a thousand civilians have perished i don't blame them for not believing what libya is trying to sell but there's no question that people are dying the problem is that

we just don't know exactly how many there are let's put this recognition of the rebels by the u.s. into perspective you see this week c.j. chivers of the new york times report of those same a libyan rebels that were supporting training funding and assisting of their looting villages but they are burning homes of those who are loyal to gadhafi forces and the thing that really got me in that whole report is that made it seem like don't worry could offer his forces are still large worse well isn't that something we've been involved ourselves in a civil war pick decide one that's not organized it's chaotic who we don't know well but apparently they're the better of two evils does something not seem utterly wrong to everyone else here this is what happens when you get your country involved in a conflict that you don't belong in and has nothing to do with you and that in reality you probably end up making wars now meanwhile let's not forget about the hypocrisy here let's not forget that it's taken until this week for the u.s. to finally say out loud that assad is becoming diva chitta might despite the fact

that people have been dying in syria for months at the hands of his forces let's get back to libya to give you another little tidbit of information that came out this week british forces admitted that they're running out of military targets to hit they're running out because they bombed the majority of them because get off he isn't so stupid as to only use military targets he's a sick man that's going to exploit civilians and use them as shields if he needs to but i just wonder how long that's going to hold up and i wonder how long before nato forces decide that this means we need to put troops on the ground because well striking civilian targets from the air just wouldn't look right it being a humanitarian intervention at all and nobody's going to complain if they just step beyond the rules. of the u.n. resolution anyway so i hope we don't see that happen but we need to do is we need to keep the pressure on the banks of the fact the politicians in the us have their heads so far up their asses right now having a fake debate over the debt ceiling all the attention has turned away from the illegal actions of the president got us involved in this war in the first place and

what a perfect strategy becomes so distracted by putting the country on the brink of a default of course everything looks minuscule in comparison but it doesn't have to be that way we don't have to be on the edge of default we don't have to be talking about cutting social programs while leaving defense on touch and we sure as hell don't have to be fighting in six conflicts around the world six just think afghanistan iraq pakistan yemen somalia libya it's too much it's unnecessary it's not smart it's creating more damage and destruction and death around the world and i have to stop. ok it's friday and it's time for happy hour and joining me tonight is our two producer jenny churchill and mike riggs as the editor at reason magazine and reason dot com so obviously we have been covering some of the murdoch scandal for you ask

me if this could be the end of the empire but the funny thing is that everyone has been covering this except for fox news for the most part and here's them trying to explain why it's really not that big of a deal. and the company has come forward and they've said look this happened a long time ago at a tabloid in london somebody did something really bad and the company reacted they close that newspaper all those people got fired even though ninety nine percent of them absolutely had nothing to do with it for a moment. as apologized but for some reason the public media keeps going over the summer again and. that is just so that it i mean can you imagine if box news was all over some story and let's say they were doing something about the president now he's a muslim and he came out and apologized to people and said sorry i've been lying to you this whole time about my religion where they just let it go what they do they

get over it they call it grounds for impeachment but i have two problems that segment one of them is that all those people getting fired in the paper getting shuttered was murdoch still exist he did not have to do that he could have waited for an investigation he could have let rebecca brooks who was the head of news of the world take the fall i think that shows you that he knew what was going on and the second part of that is hackers go to jail for like a long time like nobody you know could say sorry for doing that you don't consider sorry for stealing you don't say sorry for the other stuff there are punishments you know what i mean you know when you murder someone you just say sorry and everyone gets over it that's just how it works. but i mean honestly and then later in the clip they talk about the all the hacking that's going on in this hacking is really getting out of control as though it's part of a larger issue you know i'm sorry this is not the same this is you hiring a private one not them but nor going to say should hiring a private investigator to go snoop on people that's not even close to the same as like low security and anonymous and all that well now the f.b.i. is looking into it which i think rightly so they are i think that it's great i am

curious to see where this all goes because murdoch has just seemed like this all powerful media mogul first so so long and i wonder if this could take anything it's a little or maybe early to start speculating totally but we'll see now also during this weekend. there is this big gathering going on of all these elites and it's a males only club it's called the bohemian grove and it's something that they're a media has actually been reporting on for years and decades take a look at some old clips every year at this time the only around the country got together for two and a half weeks or. so people say with this much power and this much money located in one place there is more to the bohemian club than campfires and the new way stated reasons for the demonstration were the connections of the clubs members to nuclear weapons research the alleged political and business deals made there and the exclusion of women from membership inside the compound there had been persistent rumors about closet homosexuality. everyone loved the rumors about it

was a story we did a couple weeks ago and so it was accused of homosexuality but how do you get it to get accused of something like that but. and he has two very dirty looks and there's going to prison in a funny way right i mean especially when you have people like the stories that came out today did not mention that alex jones the slightly not so radio host from austin has written about this i'm sorry he has been on the interview for he has been calling about spears people have complained about tons of other meetings and i think what they're missing here is a like korbel decisions and crimes against humanity if you want to call some of them like war horrible citizens get made at bars they get made private dinners were lobbyists or they get made at all times almost never sinister when you have a league roof that's together for two and a half weeks who knows maybe some words i know you know satirizing without a little bit q if you're alone and i were to go off for two weeks every year not tell anyone what we were doing and call it like i don't even know what we call it i

would be curious i am a they i don't know i was out here he's a very talented artist but it was started after the civil war it's now has about twenty four excuse me four thousand twenty four hundred members among those or every republican president supposedly since one thousand twenty three cabinet official c.e.o. of major companies banks oil company executives i mean this it's not just about a bunch of elites getting together this is about all of that collusion that isn't supposed to be going on when you talk about why government and corporate powers and wall street all are working for each other and this revolving door that's what the problem is all supposedly all the republican candidates are chosen there and not only that the manhattan project was thought out there too so we went to the world war two and five are it does you know you're writing a lie why you look at look at some of the big corruptions we've had in government look tom de lay did not work out his deals with indian casinos at a huge campground ok in texas or in california he people do this in small groups

they do in big groups they are conspicuously one conspiracy theories and another animator not him it actually is very curious they released a whole video let's take a look. we must know known. allow our government officials to meet with of large companies military contractors oil companies and too big to fail banks without the direct consent of the people without transparency. it is a wonder of anonymous to be able to dig something up and then stop all the conspiracy theories from havoc why don't know if you have it they showed up a day early just compare not they got the date i'm fairly certain some members started protesting they came a day early let's go. to god this is so so ridiculous the story i think our audience knows very well how i feel about the incessant coverage of the casey anthony trial and because of that coverage this is what's now happening to people. she. was trying her babies out babies and she's going to stop the crap and they get blackwell says the woman followed her around her truck causing it to flip two and

a half times she says she never talked with her attacker but believes she was targeted because people tell her she resembles casey anthony a police reporter i want to tell you exactly why that woman was attacked and this woman is the reason for it but let me just. bring tonight. are you with me here how ludicrous the woman who maybe looks like casey anthony is being attacked in her garb you were saying you were her baby's no i mean we have to be clear here she did have a daughter named caylee and it was really confusing how she really does she really had a letter only i don't know these are just all why are you it couldn't be her that we know. it was a really great lady there's no you know what oh i don't know i have not yet i don't i don't buy that i don't buy that and she gave said some really in some areas some really stupid stuff by people actually you know what are you going to be this what

you know she did like r.-o. told me jump off a cliff alone i'm not going to do it ok you know but i mean really hoping i come on . the point is like nancy grace is like a despicable human being who is kind of entertaining but like this isn't her fault this isn't her fault this is the fault of like somebody is bad parents ok i'm going to say i leave nancy grace though if that woman was resolute and whoever watches her and actually listens to her is that fault which unfortunately are people are you guys are going to wrap it up have a great weekend that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and make sure that you can back on monday matt welch from reason magazine is going to be joining us for another dose of happy hour now in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the alone a show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other night if you know it catch it all if you tube dot com flashed a lot of show where you can find the interviews as well the show in its entirety next to the adam person.

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eight out of ninety european banks have failed stress test on whether they could withstand another financial crisis we're in italy which hopes that result might help it fend off its spiraling debt costs along with a seventy billion euro cuts which parliament passed on friday but as r.t. sara first reports there's only so much that can be done before the people take power into their own hands. as the clouds gather. and the greek bad luck battle continues dark times could now lie ahead. everybody. is afraid for the future if you are saying countries like italy looking on increasingly unstable ground can the year i write out this financial storm this is really something quite frightening if indeed it only really goes into big trouble on the financial markets this is certainly

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